Coaching Masters

Coaching is one of the top 5 frustrations for masters rowers.

Getting coached and finding coaches are challenges. But have you thought about your part in this learning process?

How coachable are you?

The coach tries to teach; you try to learn. Like any muscle it needs training.

If you adjust your mindset towards empowerment, this could make a major change in your views on “coaching” for masters rowers.

  • The wrong idea is the coach is boss.
  • The coach is one of the tools an athlete uses to meet their goals.
  • Coaches are rare.
  • Athletes have knowledge gaps.
  • Athletes take responsibility for their technique.

We’ve got an video below about the 5 types of feedback which empower athletes and coaches - find out the effects of each on you (as an athlete) and also on your coach.

As a coach I love it when an athlete asks for feedback. As a masters coach, I know that feedback is critical to comprehension.

One of the tropes about masters is that they won’t change when coached. Much of that comes from outcomes where the coach is inexperienced teaching adults.

A coach must understand how adults learn - we need to understand the ‘how’ and ‘why’ as well as the ‘what’.

Marlene and Rebecca have written a certification for “Coaching Masters Rowing”.

In module 3 on Teaching and Learning, we include advice on the relationship coaches have with masters athletes, how to structure your practice to enable learning, and advice on feedback.

Five different levels of feedback

  1. No Feedback
  2. Negative feedback "why kids must behave"
  3. Zero Feedback. When you say "good" it's not encouragement, nor telling them anything useful.
  4. Subjective Feedback. When you tell them information or how and what they did. Me-tell-you.
  5. Objective Feedback. Athlete first tells the coach what s/he thinks they did. Then coach confirms or corrects.

Watch the 6 minute video below illustrating the effect on the athlete of the 5 types of feedback - then watch it again with your crew and club group.

Coaching masters is not the same as youth rowers. We debunk the myths about masters rowers being 'un-coachable'. Adjust how you coach, how the athlete interacts with you and with the rest of the crew.

Guest Duncan Holland explains his framework for the empowered athlete.

Timestamps

02:27 Debunking the myth of masters being uncoachable.

"I find it relatively easy & a lot of fun."

Duncan Holland

Learning in different ways. Words or pictures and videos.

05:00 Organising masters is easier than juniors.

A coaching philosophy

What do you need to coach? - enough knowledge of how to row, how to rig, how to race.

This makes it easier for ex-rowers.

08:00 How to give feedback is the next most important skill.

Feedback is the base interaction between athlete and coach.

09:00 The need to write a program if athletes want to get faster. It's better if the coach writes it. Faster Masters sells training programs for masters rowers.

10:00 How to be safe on the water. Local regulations are known.

5 types of feedback

Five different levels of feedback

  1. No Feedback - Nothing
  2. Negative feedback "why kids must behave"
  3. Zero Feedback. When you say "good" or "you missed" it's not encouragement. Not telling them anything useful.
  4. Subjective Feedback. When you tell them information or how and what they did. Me-tell-you.
  5. Objective Feedback. Athlete tells the coach what you think you did first. Then I confirm or correct.

20:00 The empowered athlete.

The wrong idea is the coach is boss.

The coach is one of the tools an athlete uses to meet their goals.

24: 00 Coaches are rare. Athletes have knowledge gaps. Athletes take responsibility for their technique. Help is available. For example people in your crew.

25:00 How to use a model of rowing technique.

You must have an agreed model of how we row. Put the model on the wall in the training room. Compare how you row to the model. Ask for help and HOW to change. Seek feedback.

29:00 The empowered athlete is in control asking for feedback in a situation where they are in charge.

32:00 How to solve the problem of getting a coach for your masters crew.

Join coxswain Kim Degutis, (Riverside Rowing Club, Cambridge, MA USA) as we talk head racing and tips for coxing masters crews. Dive deep as we talk - what's different about coxing masters - how to get a group who want to row eights - advice to anyone wanting to start coxing masters

Timestamps

01:00 Rowing genealogy from our past. Marlene's ancestors were in the first families of Newfoundland, Canada. Alfred Royle was at Ottawa Rowing Club pre WW2. Rebecca's Great Grandfather, WD Caroe Rowed for the First Trinity BC in 1880s. They won the Ladies Plate coxed fours event at St Neots Amateur Regatta winning a solid silver medal, which Rebecca now owns.

05:00 When Marlene started rowing in 1977 Westside RC, Buffalo was the only club in town compared to 1900 when there were 11 rowing clubs.

Expert Masters Coxswain

08:00 Kim Degutis working with the mens masters sweep group of 19 athletes. How Kim got back into rowing - "I saw a single oar with a broken collar and picked it up and returned it to the club and met the crew."

10:30 My first stroke taught me how to cox. I had a great relationship it was sometimes non-verbal.

Whats coxing masters like?

11:30 what is it like coxing masters? Depends on their age. It can be very intimidating. Be confident and own that seat - they should be respectful. You have to earn the rest by proving yourself. Masters appreciate a cox who is clear and runs a good practice. Know what you are doing. Appreciate that it's not a rower coxing.

13:45 At races coxswains get passed around to other teams. I had to jump out of the boat very quickly for a short turn-around between races. I'm 5' 3" and got very wet. I shoved off the dock too hard and went head over heels into the lake. When we got to the start the referee asked "Did you guys have a pool party?" I now have a reputation of flipping at the start in Canada at the Burnaby Lake Race.

16:30 A serious incident that happened helped me to learn a lesson. On the River Charles, Elliot Bridge is the most dangerous going upstream. Boats coming down stream swerve wide and are hard to see. We 'traded paint' with another crew.

Advice to coxes

20:00 Advice to anyone thinking of coxing masters.

Take a fun, encouraging approach. You can be more serious if a crew is more competitive. Intonation determines how to speak to them. Word choice matters. Vocabulary matters - explain the technique you are aiming for. Time on the water teaches you a lot. Working with coaches - use the intonation they use and fold this into what you say.

22:30 A competitive crew wants you to be demanding. If you want to go fast you need this.

23:00 How to organise a masters sweep group. We try to make the 8 and he go out together with the 4 being a faster lineup so they can be similar speeds. Kim is an eights specialist. A bow-loader four is very different - it feels different, more intimate, finesse is needed. An 8 is a dump truck - just GO.

25: 00 Working with a new crew - tips. They can have different flexibility and movement patterns and different technique. How do you get them together?

Pause drills work well for timing. Watch them row for 500 meters - see what's happening and look out for technical deficiencies. We do a lot of eyes closed rowing.

Coxing masters - insights from an expert

Learn to row programmes for masters. Masters rowing has two types of member - returning rowers who learned in their youth and adult beginners. Should club boards consider adding more learn to row programs? We discuss the advantages and disadvantages.

Timestamps

01:30 Learn to row - who wants to do it?

02:30 Clubs need a strategy and goals first. Does LTR fit into this? Marlene coached in 1982 Boston, MA and it was the only learn to row in town.

Pathway to club membership

04:30 What is the funnel pathway to membership of the club? This is important to figure out. A community club needs presence with townsfolk.

06:00 when someone tries rowing it is either a yes or a no. Do they like it?

08:30 Pathways - some run LTR over 6-8 weeks and that isn't effective. it's better to do a weekend to get them hooked. A 48 hour camp where you - row Sat/Sun and learn a lot.

12:30 For a small club after LTR integrating a whole group is challenging.

Large clubs with coaches can have 3 groups - beginner /intermediate / advanced

13:30 Give the Learn to Row course members the best coach you can - It's their first impression.

So they feel understood. Many clubs host introductions to rowing throughout the year. We recommend you add an entry level class - with a skills checklist to confirm skills before you can join the intermediate group.

17:15 LTR courses are a great fundraiser. The goal of the program is an adventure camp. Learn something new and fun.

Are masters coachable?

20:00 Are masters receptive to coaching? Or is it a lack of coach communication skills?

Masters attend camps because of coaching. When you ask what's important to them you find a focus for your coaching.

You can't coach masters like juniors. Give people time to explore rowing.

Masters Rowing - the book by Volker Nolte and Wolfgang Fritsch has a chapter on running a masters learn to row course. It's exactly the way Rebecca teaches her novices. Buy the book.

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Adult learn to row courses
Club boards review learn to row strategy and pathway to membership.

Further Resources

When our rowing friends or coaches die, what can we do? We discuss ways to memorialise rowers. And what we can do to support and celebrate with rowers facing end of life.

Timestamps

02:00 Rowing and death. Iconic coaches are passing away. Makes you think about who influenced you and who you worked with.

03:30 Ways to Memorialise people.

  • Write articles - their teaching.
  • Tell stories about them.
  • Set up a scholarship - Craftsbury has one for Larry Gluckman
  • Harry Mahon website of his coaching methods as a learning resource.

07:30 Frank Cunningham from Lake Washington RC published a book comprising all his newsletter articles.

End of Life

14:00 Rowers facing end of Life

Supporting sick rowers - we did a weekly quad outing which was gentle. Marlene's friend wanted to enjoy time on the water after a cancer diagnosis.

Keep line of sight in singles for safety. And wait for each other during the row. People enjoy having something to look forward to each week.

18.30 Keep active as rowing makes you stronger, physically. Psychological benefits - you are with friends, out in nature, on the water. Adapt your boat to suit their needs.

20 00 Cyclical sports are healing sports - calming effect on the nervous system. Pay attention to the small things as time becomes more precious.

We talk about coping with the death of rowing friends and coaches
End of life and enjoying rowing.

What are limiting beliefs and how do they affect your rowing? Some of call it the voice of the inner lizard. We’ll talk about how to set yourself on a good course for this holiday period.

Timestamps

01:22: Jess DiCarlo talks about the book of the month, The Compleat Dr. Rowing by Andy Anderson. He is Dr. Rowing from the column in Rowing News magazine. .

03:15 The story of the Japanese rowers, rowing words, and the style of stories

04:55 The story “Seat racing a Twinkie” or was it a ham sandwich?

Limiting beliefs

15:15 What are limiting beliefs? The definition.

17:00 Jess talks about perfectionist think; what do I do if I can’t follow a plan? About perfectionism.

18:30 Enjoying the process of what you are doing.

19:15 Marlene talks about Dr. Amy Johnson’s book “It’s Just a Thought” how you deal with limiting beliefs and changing habits. Where are the thoughts formed and how to deal with them. What is the inner lizard. Buy Dr Johnson's book.

Changing habits

23:40 About changing habits and habitual thoughts.

What ever you give attention to is reinforced.

28:10 Marlene talks about the resource: Limiting Beliefs Activity Sheet from UCDavis Success

Coaching and Learning Strategies

Activity question: What limiting belief do you want do you want to work on?

When you talk yourself out of taking action, what do you tell yourself?

29:30 Marlene talks about Mel Robbin’s 5-minute morning routine and boosting your energy for the day.

31:50 Take your thinking and break it into little tiny steps to create momentum.

33:55 During the holidays even if you miss your regular workout still do something- stretch, a 20-minute walk- it still counts. Limiting beliefs are not truth unless we act on them.

35:22 If you accomplish 80% of what you want to do you are doing quite well.

37:00 Happy Christmas we will be back the first week of January.

Learn how to change your mindset
Find your limiting beliefs

Further resources

A deep dive into one master's training year plan.

Timestamps

01:30 One Masters training - Annual rowing spend $1450. Coached program. Focus on drills and skills 2-3 races in a year.

03:00 How to be coached First time on an athletic program. Expectations for giving feedback during a session.

09:00 Set expectations on how their rowing will progress. Learn how to row hard.

Exasperated Rowing Coach

14:00 Volunteer coach - why do this? The pleasure in teaching.

When Questions are asked what's in it for me? The squad falls apart.

20:00 Does the Club have a strategy? Can it be revised? 2 covid seasons was a stable group. Now members are travelling more. What type of a club do you want to be? Set expectations.

25:00 Masters are a diverse group. Doing something for ourselves makes us hard to manage. Pathways of managed decline.

I am 51 and have never rowed. I would love to take lessons. How can I get started?

Mary

Learn to row

Two ways to get started with rowing and sculling.

  1. Join a gym and take classes on the rowing machine. This will get you fit but unlikely to help you in a boat (!)
  2. Find a local rowing club and take a learn to row class

Which country do you live in?

Most rowing federations organise the sport for their country so do an online search for [country name or city name] learn to row.

  • US Rowing learn to row

Hopefully you will find someone near where you live.

It is much better to learn with an experienced coach than try to do online courses for learning to row

But do stay in touch and tell us how you get on.

How Faster Masters can help you learn to row better

We are an online rowing education business. We can help you AFTER you have done a learn to row course. For practical reasons, this is best done face to face with a rowing coach who is experienced coaching masters. It is never good to try to teach yourself rowing.

3 ways we can help you

Further resources

Chasing anyone's advice. What to do if you have more than one coach.

Timestamps

01:30 Chasing advice. Marlene had several coaches. We congregated to train. Rebecca was at a club where the coach was provided.

Coaches agree in technique and philosophy - important if you have multiple advisors. Design your own training program.

Conflicting coaching advice

04:30 When your coach and online searches give conflicting advice. Take in the context if you are the club coach Watch you do not conflict with the other advisor if you know your athlete has multiple coaches Offer different ways to look at it - drills - language explainers

07:30 Clues what they've been taught is not what you teach. Watch them row

  • power application
  • bladework skills
  • recovery sequence
  • rhythm

Seek the one element which gives the most payback to work on first. Marleneism - not all errors are equal

The self-taught sculler

10:20 The Self-taught sculler will not have had the same drills, handling skills and fundamentals. You will not perfect your technique in a single camp week. We give you tools to go home and practice. How to practice that.

Multiple coachess

16:30 Multiple coaches - just getting one coach as a masters rower can be hard!

Style differences - sequential or simultaneous drive?

Attempt a classical style initially.

Use muscles in the correct sequence and to minimise biomechanical stresses on your body.

20:00 Tel your coach if you have had different advice. Is the difference style? Have you mis-understood the coach?

22:00 Coach's track record needs to be checked out Are they qualified or just a good-intentioned person? Was it helpful and did it make things better?

25:00 Pre a big event - this is not the time to make radical changes to your technique. Improve what you already do well.

30:00 Look for trusted advice if you don't have a regular coach. Don't chase the last bit of advice you heard. What an elite athlete does may not be right for you. The principles of good technique will help you.

Don't take random coaching advice from well-meaning people

Further resources

How to interview and hire a rowing coach

Masters need more coxes | Marlene Royle and Rebecca Caroe with guest Katy Smith talking about ways to develop, coach and improve coxing for masters rowers.

Timestamps

01:20 This Past week-advocacy. A new dock arrived at Marlene's club. Recommend Ako Plus matting for non slip surface suitable for boat clubs.

08:00 Katy Smith from Asheville Rowing Club, North Carolina, USA.

07:00 Sculling Intensive Course announcement. https://fastermastersrowing.com/register/sculling-intensive/

Coxing masters

11:00 Our team has 2 W8 and one M8. And specialised sculling groups.

12:30 Insufficient support for Cox development. Coaches have never coxed. But coxes need a leadership style. The US Rowing Level 2 coach certification has limited cox information.

14:00 Coaches need to sit in the coxes seat at least once. Learn what the role does. - Can you keep your line -point. - Technical skills development. - Responsible for safety - Docking and landing. I use my peripheral vision-what is going on around you?

18:00 Working with a coach Do they do all the coaching? Know what the coach expects from the crew. What skills are they working on? We see and hear things the coach does not. Act as a go-between with the coach and crew. 20:00 Help coxswains develop. Tell us feedback - we want it. When we give good calls, tell us. Are people afraid of hurting our feelings?

23:00 Fear of losing a coxswain. I ask directly for feedback. We used "no name" surveys to rate us.

25:30 Differences coxing masters requires more finesse with your voice - not using screaming tactics.

27:00 Flexibility with line-ups. Explain the goal for this practice. Mixed ability crews - give experienced people the expectation of developing novices. It's important to allow novices a voice. Buy into the workout.

31:15 Coxes arriving to the masters level - understand how necessary it is to being out on the water. Our masters learn coxing as well as rowing.

33:00 We have a learn to cox program. Choose to rotate through rowing and coxing - half outing rowing, half coxing.

Coxing training manual

35-00 Coaching the coxswain by Chelsea Dommert. She reviews how to master steering, docking, setting up your race plan with the coach. https://amzn.to/3L7Zegp

38:00 I auto record my outings using Cox Orb Platinum. I share them with the womens 4 crew. Coaches could listen to recordings and give coxes feedback.

41:00 It's important coxswains know how to row. At masters lend everyone needs to learn every role in rowing. To contact Katy [email protected]

Katy Smith shares expertise on coxing masters
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